Khloé shared the funny nickname she has for her younger brother, who has lived out of the spotlight for the last several years, on her latest podcast episode

Khloé Kardashian (left) and Rob Kardashian. Photo: Chris Polk/WWD/Penske Media via Getty; Gabe Ginsberg/Getty

Khloé Kardashian has a funny way of describing the private life that her younger brother Rob Kardashian has pursued.

The 38-year-old has lived largely out of the spotlight in the last several years, and particularly since the birth of his daughter Dream, whom he shares with his ex Blac Chyna. But on the April 16 episode of Khloé’s podcast Khloé in Wonder Land, she revealed the nickname she has for Rob, who she said, “loves to be a little elusive.”

“I call him the Wizard, from The Wizard of Oz, cause he likes to be behind the curtain,” Khloé, 40, told her guest, UFC boss Dana White, who is friends with Rob but said he hadn’t seen him in close to a decade.

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Despite how “elusive” Rob likes to be when it comes to his family’s high-profile life, Khloé has a tight bond with him that she’s always been open about.

She then told White, “We all live in the same gated area, so he lives right next door to me.”

Rob Kardashian (left) and Khloé Kardashian.

Rob has come up as a topic on Khloé’s podcast before. When her BFF Malika Haqq was a guest in February, they recalled the period when Malika and Rob were hooking up, which Haqq said “started off as a joke to see if it would ruffle [Khloé’s] feathers.”

They then called Rob who joined the episode via speakerphone and said his fling with Haqq was “very passionate” and “everything I needed” at the time.

Rob also came up during Khloé’s conversation with celebrity party planner Mindy Weiss, who said that she only sees him at “Dream’s parties” but he always “goes to every vendor and thanks them” and is a “pleasure” to have around.

“[He’s] always just huggable. And I always just hug him,” Weiss said.

From left: Khloé Kardashian, Rob Kardashian and Malika Haqq.Khloe Kardashian/Instagram

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Khloé has always had a soft spot for her brother, as she told Bustle in December that she can “identify with him” on a different level than with her sisters Kourtney Kardashian Barker, Kim Kardashian, Kendall Jenner and Kylie Jenner.

“I feel so deeply what he feels — the struggles that he has, or just wanting to be out of the public eye, or just feeling like he doesn’t fit in or is being judged about his appearance,” she said.

She continued, “I feel like we were raised in pairs: It was Kourtney and Kim, and then it was me and Rob, and then Kendall and Kylie. And I just feel like we are both each other’s protectors. I love him so much. It’s just innate.”